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  1. I think you are mistaken about B&H ever offering a double valve G bass, even to special order. The double inline valve Sovereign you refer to as being introduced around 1971 was indeed a .562 bore Bb bass trombone.
    Also, the .547 bore instruments such as Conn 8 and 88H were replacing the narrow bore tenor trombones, not the basses. The earliest Bb bass trombones used in UK were .555 bore Bb/F models, the Sovereign went to American specs with the .562 bore.
    I’m also curious where you read that Godfrey Kneller asserted that lower notes were attainable on the G bass than those available on Bb/F. I’ve read his views on it and don’t recall seeing anything other than referencing tone quality, not range. All American single valve basses of the day had a long F slide that could be extended without removing it and changing slides in order to produce the low B natural. By contrast, a G bass had to change to a C slide on the D valve in order to play low Ab.

    • I’m sorry if I gave the impression that B&H made a double valve G bass. The instrument described by Wick is clearly a Bb trombone with two independent valves in F and G. As for Kneller, I just looked again at his article in my source list. He bragged that he could play the low C and B on his G/D trombone, which just above the pedal on a Bb/F instrument and very weak. By the way, I cited the original article, but I found it on The Trombonist Online and printed it. Unfortunately, it’s no longer online or I’d link to it here.

      • Thanks for your response. It’s not that you just “gave the impression that B&H made a double valve G bass”. Your article literally stated :
        “Boosey & Hawkes had just introduced a new G bass trombone with two valves, but it was only available by special order.”, which is why I drew your attention to that error. :-)
        If you are able to scan your printed copy of that article by Godfrey Kneller, I would be very appreciative if you could send a PDF to my email address, which you should have access to. I would love to read the entire article. Clearly, he was passionate about the G bass, but of course the writing was on the wall. I witnessed the gradual abandonment of the G some 40 years later in SA brass bands of Eastern Canada. The last holdout played on a G until retiring from active band service around 1990.

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